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True or False, #2 In An Occasional Series [Nov. 12th, 2007|11:45 am]
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"In politics if you want anything said, ask a man. If you want anything done, ask a woman."

True or false?
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[User Picture]From: [info]wyliekat
2007-11-12 06:58 pm (UTC)

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There aren't enough women attracted to politics to make this a fair question.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 06:59 pm (UTC)

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Though that could explain why politicians currently get so little done, of course...
[User Picture]From: [info]wyliekat
2007-11-12 07:00 pm (UTC)

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Got it in one. ;-}

(Truthfully, I think it has to do with "primary caregiver" status defaulting to mostly mothers and the fact that a career in politics assumes that you have someone looking after the homefront while you gallivant off into the sunset to schmooze)
From: [info]bonsai_human
2007-11-13 07:56 am (UTC)

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Is it that they are not attracted to it, or that it is too much of an old boy's club?

[User Picture]From: [info]wyliekat
2007-11-13 02:03 pm (UTC)

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Both. It's not set up to be attractive for women, unless they don't have children, or young children at any rate. The media gets more personal with women's lives, the hours are ridiculous, the power politics aren't for the faint of heart.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-13 07:10 pm (UTC)

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I look forward to the days of two mothers being Prime Minister on a time-share basis. They could even be from opposing parties, it'd be ace!
[User Picture]From: [info]wyliekat
2007-11-13 09:02 pm (UTC)

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Not gonna happen, unless we kick your sorry masculine behinds to the global curb.
[User Picture]From: [info]whatifoundthere
2007-11-12 07:03 pm (UTC)

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I liked your journal a lot more when it had content in it.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:10 pm (UTC)

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Alas, I fear the "Age of Content" of my journal may be over.

I don't think I have anything left I want to say, only ways to say it.
[User Picture]From: [info]bitchiekittie
2007-11-12 08:04 pm (UTC)

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man, if content were required to keep a journal, I'd have zero readers! you know, instead of the four I have now.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 08:07 pm (UTC)

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Now is the winter of our dis-content.
[User Picture]From: [info]sosoclever
2007-11-12 07:06 pm (UTC)

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Shouldn't this be number 3?

Shoot, I still have to get that recipe for you.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:10 pm (UTC)

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As I explained to [info]joranj the other day, it's not that sort of series.
[User Picture]From: [info]sosoclever
2007-11-12 07:47 pm (UTC)

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What, you expect me to read all the comments?
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:56 pm (UTC)

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If there's any good stuff on my journal these days, that's where you'll find it, in the repartee. As has already been pointed out today, actively nutritional content is no longer provided.
[User Picture]From: [info]obandsoller
2007-11-12 08:24 pm (UTC)

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So are you indexing these entries, by Fibonacci numbers or something?
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 08:37 pm (UTC)

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Grr, I thought it would take until at least #5 or #8 for someone to spot it. You've ruined everything.
[User Picture]From: [info]obandsoller
2007-11-12 09:15 pm (UTC)

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Oh, and I here I was thinking that you had just mis-numbered your second post and decided to start numbering normally from there.

I don't suppose you've read The Curious Incident of the Dog during the Night-time?
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 09:26 pm (UTC)

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I have indeed. It confirmed many of my prejudices against the mathematical brain...
[User Picture]From: [info]obandsoller
2007-11-12 10:07 pm (UTC)

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We're not all autistic you know! Just the majority of us...
[User Picture]From: [info]oinomel71
2007-11-12 07:14 pm (UTC)

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False. In politics if you want anything, don't ask.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:18 pm (UTC)

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But I've been not asking for all sorts of cool stuff for years now - where is it?
[User Picture]From: [info]oinomel71
2007-11-12 07:19 pm (UTC)

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Have you been doing it in politics?
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:28 pm (UTC)

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Everything we do is politics. ESPECIALLY apathy.
[User Picture]From: [info]oinomel71
2007-11-12 07:43 pm (UTC)

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I misspoke. I meant to say "Have you been not doing it in politics?". Of course, if everything that we don't do is also politics, then politics just got a whole heap more interesting.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:45 pm (UTC)

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I hereby quote William Jefferson Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States: "I did not have sex with that woman." If he can be not doing it in politics, so can I.
[User Picture]From: [info]class_worrier
2007-11-12 07:21 pm (UTC)

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Work through it, you'll be fine.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:28 pm (UTC)

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I am trying to make a sequitur out of this.
[User Picture]From: [info]sosoclever
2007-11-12 07:48 pm (UTC)

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Will you be chalant when you do?
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 07:50 pm (UTC)

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Verlaine: speaking sense on the internet since 2002.
[User Picture]From: [info]nantosvelta
2007-11-13 12:10 am (UTC)

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verlaine? speaking sense? I was unaware the snowball fight in hell had escalated to such an extent.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-13 12:16 am (UTC)

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There were glaringly missing "nons" in the first two posts of this thread; I couldn't possibly comment on the third.
[User Picture]From: [info]very_true_thing
2007-11-12 07:55 pm (UTC)

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Consider that the source of the quote was a woman famed for doing quite a lot, but not what people asked her to do...
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 08:06 pm (UTC)

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I think it's a bloody disgrace when Conservatives actually do things. Surely their role - there's a clue to this in their party name - is just to shuffle paper around in such a way that everything stays exactly the same as it ever was, and pay themselves handsomely for their time and effort.
[User Picture]From: [info]erotetica
2007-11-12 08:10 pm (UTC)

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Sometimes you have to be revolutionary to keep things staying the same.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-12 08:13 pm (UTC)

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Of course the nature of a "revolution" is that once it's over things should have come 360 degrees back round to the point where they started from. Or that's my understanding of the word anyway.
[User Picture]From: [info]ravenblack
2007-11-13 12:28 am (UTC)

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I'd go with false. In politics, if you want something done you don't ask anyone, you bribe someone who's in a position to get it done. And that's not often a woman, is it?
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-13 12:38 am (UTC)

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Hmm, but perhaps the bribee is only bribable because he's got a wife indoors who's been badgering him for a new set of curtains. I mean, most politicians make a great show of their marriages, don't they? I think they only *became* politicians because of those marriages. Why would a carefree bachelor spend all day in a sweaty parliament building being jeered at when he could be out having fun instead?
From: [info]bonsai_human
2007-11-13 08:01 am (UTC)

False

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It sounds good but doesn't stand up to much analysis.

[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2007-11-13 08:31 am (UTC)

Re: False

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Not unlike Thatcher herself, it might be said.
[User Picture]From: [info]rentaghost31
2007-11-13 10:46 am (UTC)

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on the basis of my experience I would say that its true.
[User Picture]From: [info]rentaghost31
2007-11-13 10:46 am (UTC)

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although that doesn't mean that getting something done is always a good thing....