It's a waste of time. Oyster cards are not valid on the TARDIS.
Psychic Oyster cards, on the other hand...
(Or just psychic oysters from the Medusa Cascade!)
No, it's logically wrong. Time travel cannot be invented, as we haven't been visited by time travellers.
In any case, since time travel would immediately place you millions of kilometers from the Earth and solar system, I doubt a bus pass would be of much use.
Maybe we have been visited by time travellers, but they took to heart all the dire warnings about never changing anything, so instead they just sit on tube trains all day, silently watching yet never making eye contact with people.
If that theory's correct then bus passes are a waste of time, but Oyster cards are well worth keeping just in case.
Aye, but that's as spineless as the argument 'there is a god but She does nothing that breaks Her physical laws'.
In Verlaine's specific case, what's the point of (heliotemporalsynchronised) time travel if he can't then use his bus pass? It might as well not exist, right?
as we haven't been visited by time travellers
But how do I *know* that? On recent bus journeys I've had a growing suspicion that every other passenger is in fact me in a series of increasingly elaborate disguises, a bit like Feynman's solitary-electron-travelling-through-time.
I love the single electron theory. It's the closest thing I get to religion. The universe as a cosmic accounting error. Sublime.
a) single electron hypothesis.
b) where are all the positrons?
Positrons are when the electron is going backwards in time.
Exactly, so under a single electron hypothesis, there should be at most one more electron than positron in the universe (at any one time in an inertial frame). I'm aware of more than one electron, hence: "where are all the positrons?"
Oh, I get you. ISTR ![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif) maajs had a good answer for that, but I can't remember what it was.
And furthermore, I think I can demonstrate that time travel MUST have been invented, by recourse to simple economics. The USA has a ten trillion dollar debt, right? But obviously no one on this planet, nor indeed everyone on this planet put together, has or ever had a spare ten trillion dollars to lend them. That kind of money simply doesn't exist to borrow. *Except* in the time-travel-possessing future, where evidently it's going to be pocket change!
I think they just don't feel like visiting the Noughties. I don't blame 'em, meself.
Not so much wrong as pointless - it seems unlikely that you'd find yourself with time travel, but then neither the power nor the resources to get around the past other than by bus pass.
No, as you already paid for them! : )
That's what I think too. If time is just an illusion created by the curvature of space, I think it's a bit high-handed of King County Metro to claim that my bus pass can somehow be said to "expire" :P
Absolutely agreed. And I also note how very intelligent and thought-out the other replies to this post were in comparison to mine. I hope mine came across as quite charming and girly rather than just pathetic. : D
no, but instead of dreaming about a groundhog's-day type time travel loop (which sounds like a nightmare to me) that somehow allows you to take your bus passes with, you could try to figure out the letter/color scheme of the repeating transfers and figure out when you can use them in the for-real future!
Eek, sounds like a lot of mental effort. I think my limit may be saving the FlexPass that Amanda gave me so I can try to use it again in Apr-Jun 2108...
oh THAT pass. silly goose. won't they all have public transit credit microchips implanted under their skin by then?
There's no need to hoard them all together; as long as you put each one somewhere you can't see for a couple of minutes before throwing it away, there's a window of opportunity for your future self to come and collect it, then go back to the beginning of the day and use it, then put it back undetectably.
Oh man! So I set up a hidden camera to observe my old bus passes, and it turns out that someone *is* blinking in from the future to borrow and return them, but it doesn't appear to be my future self. What on earth should I do now? It clearly states on the back of them that they're non-transferable.
Don't worry, it's simply that you are going to have plastic surgery.
The future you could have remembered your camera ruse and adopted an anti-paradox disguise, so you aren't necessarily breaking the law.
Except now I've explained this to you, there will be no point you adopting the disguise. Forget I said anything; delete this comment and start drinking heavily right now.
Easy. Just remember to time travel back to now, login as yourself, and leave a comment here in response.
Yeah, like if I had a time machine I'd *still* have nothing better to do than log onto the internet and post comments on LiveJournal all day...
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It's funny because it's true.
Taking tiny quantities of paper back to a time before global warming sounds like an efficient method of carbon sequestration, but you'd need a very energy-efficient time machine to really have a positive impact.
Forget morals. That's just practical!
Ethically? Not at all. After all, they're -your- passes and already paid for.
A good idea too, and to think I've simply been saving mine for the income tax credits. | 
