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You May Say That I'm A Screamo, But I'm Not The Only One [Feb. 27th, 2009|08:28 am]
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Hey, does anyone know anything about the noble popular music genre that is post-hardcore/screamo? I have to interview a band called Thursday asap and it would be good to think up some questions beyond "you haven't been having the thoughts about cutting yourself again since our last session, have you, Mr Rickly?"

Actually I've just seen that the lead singer is a big fan of Marvel Comics, so they are going to get a fantastic writeup, as per the rules of the Old Geek Network.

On a side note, I'm about apathetic patient as it's possible to get, but these Japanese spam comments do start to get rather annoying, don't they? Is there a story behind them, and did everyone else in the world just switch off their anonymous commenting like a month ago? Or else I'm thinking I could just learn to embrace their static, in the same way as certain guitarists learned to love feedback and distortion. That's right! I shall form a Japanese Spamcore band.
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[User Picture]From: [info]bateleur
2009-02-27 04:46 pm (UTC)

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these Japanese spam comments do start to get rather annoying, don't they?

It's weird the way your LJ gets them with such consistency. I've only ever seen very occasional ones elsewhere.
[User Picture]From: [info]londonkds
2009-02-27 05:07 pm (UTC)

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I think some of these spammers start on LJ communities and then follow people who post back to their own LJ. You aren't in any, ahem, dodgy Japanese-related communities, are you [info]verlaine?
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-02-27 05:15 pm (UTC)

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No! I'm clearly just BIG IN JAPAN.
[User Picture]From: [info]undyingking
2009-02-27 05:52 pm (UTC)

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Maybe one of his friends is faking them up as part of some long-running faux-conspiracy scheme.
[User Picture]From: [info]bateleur
2009-02-27 05:53 pm (UTC)

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Don't look at me, I know nothing about it (this time)!
From: (Anonymous)
2009-02-27 04:51 pm (UTC)

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Honey, I'm begging you.
Will you please let me a birth?

Thank you.

Good NIght.
From: (Anonymous)
2009-02-27 04:52 pm (UTC)

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いや~ん。ルイスの赤ちゃん産みたいの。
お願い。

あ~ん。るいす~~~~
From: (Anonymous)
2009-02-27 04:53 pm (UTC)

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Will you please give me your seeds?

PLEASE~
From: (Anonymous)
2009-02-27 04:55 pm (UTC)

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My womb is craving for your seeds~

Pleeeeaaase.

From: (Anonymous)
2009-02-27 04:55 pm (UTC)

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Oyasuminasai, Lewis.

I can't see you tomorrow!
[User Picture]From: [info]the_lady_lily
2009-02-27 04:57 pm (UTC)

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I suspect you have a Japanese stalker who thinks you are called Lewis. And wishes to have your babies. Good luck to you.
[User Picture]From: [info]beingjdc
2009-02-27 05:03 pm (UTC)

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Wow, Thursday. How lucky are you.

Ask them why they hate the French.

The important thing is that they can write lyrics, as well as sing them noisily.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-02-27 05:17 pm (UTC)

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Do they hate the French?

I've been giving their new album a listen and I have to say, anyone who writes songs based on Martin Amis and David Foster Wallace novels is alright by me.
[User Picture]From: [info]beingjdc
2009-02-27 05:20 pm (UTC)

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They fantasise about burning down the capital, so they must have something against them.

http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/39004/
[User Picture]From: [info]sosoclever
2009-02-27 05:24 pm (UTC)

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I think there's something wrong with your journal. Yesterday when I posted a comment, I was whisked away to another website with pictures of naked women (while I was at work, of course). Then [info]the_original1 (from home, so on a different computer) posted a comment, and got a security alert from our anti-virus software. It seems to have caught whatever the problem was, but I'm still going to be worried about having to wipe our hard drive again. I don't know if this has anything to do with your spam comments, but I've never had anything like that happen on anyone else's journal, and I've never seen the Japanese spam comments on anyone else's, either. I have no idea how they could be related, either.

I'm actually somewhat leery of hitting "post comment" now, but I'll do it anyway, in the name of science . . . or something.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-02-27 06:06 pm (UTC)

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Yesterday when I posted a comment, I was whisked away to another website with pictures of naked women

That is unduly disturbing... I am insufficiently technical to understand how it might happen, but I assume, I *hope*, it's something to do with LiveJournal rather than a byproduct of my particular style! I'll drop a line to the powers-that-be and see what they think.
[User Picture]From: [info]sosoclever
2009-02-27 07:01 pm (UTC)

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I keep telling myself that I did something more than just click on "post comment," but I can't imagine what. I've commented a couple of times on your journal since then, and I haven't had a repeat performance.
[User Picture]From: [info]sosoclever
2009-02-27 07:06 pm (UTC)

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Okay, I had to go and say something. Except this time, I got to actually see that my comment had posted before being sent to a website where I could win a free pair of Ugg boots.

I saw my comment, used the wheel on my mouse to scroll down to the bottom, and was scrolling back up to the top (without hitting any buttons) and it changed. If IE was as good as Netscape, it would have a "history" page where I could find out the URL of that webpage (and the one from yesterday) without actually going back to it.
[User Picture]From: [info]sosoclever
2009-02-27 07:44 pm (UTC)

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my (dot) amazingfreerewards (dot) com

I was typing in another URL that begins with "my." and found it.
[User Picture]From: [info]robynbright
2009-02-27 05:29 pm (UTC)

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Wow that Marvel interview is terrible !I love how they keep plugging their product at every monet aka "question".
I am sure you will do much better !

Have you seen the movie for 100 year sof solitiude- any good?
Will read Marquez asap!
miss youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
[User Picture]From: [info]channonyarrow
2009-02-27 05:40 pm (UTC)

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I know nothing about post-hardcore/screamo in any real sense other than that I probably listen to a fair amount of it, but the endless divisions of rock are starting to really piss me off. I do know some about Thursday.

Thursday used to be on Eyeball Records, the label that My Chemical Romance was on, and they are on the Kerrang! compilation Under The Influence: My Chemical Romance. They're currently headling the Taste of Chaos tour, which has been downsized because of the economy, and I really like Understanding in a Car Crash. They also got comprehensively dicked over by the label that they went to after Eyeball (this is all like mid-2000s, so probably not relevant for your purposes).

Check their wiki page, and google Taste of Chaos.

Also, Alternative Press just did a cover article with them, but I can't find the actual cover and I can't tell what month it is - it might even be this month. Might be worth looking for if you've got time, to see what sort of questions they were asked then and if there's anything to piggyback on. I'd assume that any decent record store would have one, but I can't remember what's up on the Ave any more, so no specific recommendations there.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-02-27 06:27 pm (UTC)

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Sweet sweet sweet! I've only been on their case for about twelve hours and I'm already finding them pretty intriguing. I just need to work out the correct way to respond to the genre, it's not one I'm deeply familiar with! Though I did listen to a bit of At The Drive-In back at the start of the decade, which seems like a start...
[User Picture]From: [info]sparkfrost
2009-02-27 06:47 pm (UTC)

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I am very jealous that you get to interview Thursday. Division Street is one of my favorite songs.
[User Picture]From: [info]myfirstkitchen
2009-02-27 08:37 pm (UTC)

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I saw Thursday once: http://www.godisinthetvzine.co.uk/content/content_detail.php?id=516&type=Live

That was several hours of my life I'll never get back.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-02-27 09:53 pm (UTC)

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I wonder if classical music aficionados ever have a horrible moment when they look around themselves at a concert and think "shit, some of these people probably don't even have grandchildren yet..."
[User Picture]From: [info]smallblakflower
2009-02-27 10:18 pm (UTC)

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My friend [info]rainsinger has been getting the spam too. Hers is usually oddly appropriate to her posts though. Change the topics of your posts to more sexual/reproductive topics and you can pretend to make sense of the spam. Its a win win.
[User Picture]From: [info]lemurstew
2009-02-27 10:34 pm (UTC)

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I know nothing about screamo, but that my roommie will give me strange, pitying looks if I ever play it in the house, and that I am, apparently, unable to tell when I'm playing it.

Is there some secret algorithm to understanding music genres? Because I just don't get it.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-02-27 11:09 pm (UTC)

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There is a secret algorithm to understanding math rock, which is not a million miles away from screamo! Legend has it that you can work out whether any given math rock song is good or not with a calculator.

[User Picture]From: [info]jiggery_pokery
2009-02-28 07:30 pm (UTC)

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You've misstated the legend. Gauss famously gave a math rock song e out of π on i+j-k Box Jury not because he could dance to it, but because he could differentiate it.
[User Picture]From: [info]lemurstew
2009-03-02 07:42 pm (UTC)

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Don't you know it's cruel to send people to links like this when they may very well be trying to focus on schoolwork?

And I've since had it explained that screamo is what emo turns into when it tries to be hardcore. It, well, doesn't help.

Any ideas on how to define a song as 'emo' or 'hardcore?'
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-03-02 08:23 pm (UTC)

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I was under the vague impression "emo" was short for "emotional hardcore" - in which case all emo bands would be by definition hardcore! Hardcore was heavier than punk, I guess emocore was angstier than hardcore, but then I guess emo went mainstream along with punk; so maybe Jimmy Eat World were to Dead Kennedys and Black Flag what Green Day are to The Sex Pistols, without dropping their emo/punk labels. Screamo seems to be just emo where the angst is expressed through lots of screaming. Thursday are definitely pretty angsty and depressed and they scream a lot, and are post-hardcore rather than hardcore, which I guess like "post-modernism" could mean almost anything.

In summary: I don't really know for sure either :D
[User Picture]From: [info]lemurstew
2009-03-04 03:40 am (UTC)

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Some people put far too much thought into genres. I think I'll just stick to my own (Music I would listen to again, and music I wouldn't)

It probably doesn't help that I never seem to find bands until their genre is passing anyway.
[User Picture]From: [info]seele_brennt
2009-02-28 10:29 pm (UTC)

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yeah, i think they are pretty geeky...don't know if they are as geeky as the boys in my chemical romance (look mcr's blogs! jabba glob???!). don't think he's ever been a cutter, he seems quite normal. sorry i can't be of more help, but i know little about them with the exception that geoff produced the first my chem record and they toured together a lot and are best mates...and they're from jersey. so any questions related to the jersey scene would probably be good. it should probably end with a question like what is your favorite misfits song.
[User Picture]From: [info]verlaine
2009-02-28 11:30 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, I was only joking about the cutting! Seems as though he's wrestled with depression in the past, but really who hasn't... and I actually find their new album to be wrestling with the fear of death, but coming to some really quite positive conclusions. I like them! Maybe I'll be up at the front of the stage moshing when the Taste of Chaos tour arrives in Seattle.
[User Picture]From: [info]seele_brennt
2009-02-28 11:33 pm (UTC)

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are you sure about that? i always say it is best to stand to the side. though sometimes that isn't safe either...like in the desolation row video. have been to quite a few shows like that. no serious bodily injuries, but i did get a combat boot to the head though.

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