| Asking The Big Questions |
[Apr. 22nd, 2009|10:50 pm] |
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Here's a question I've never known (or bothered to look up) the answer to - is Johnny Marr, legendary guitarist for arch-miserabilists The Smith, so-called as a pun on the French j'en ai marre ("I'm fed up"), or is his name an amazing coincidence? Especially given that his songwriting parter declares himself marre aussi... |
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Oh I want to know the answer to this too; one of my friends claims this is absolutely true, but I don't know as I believe him.
When I learned that phrase in French I asked myself the same thing! Certainly makes it easier to remember...Johnny Marr!
According to Wikipedia he was born "John Martin Maher" so it seems a fair bet it's deliberate.
He changed his name to avoid confusion with / out of respect for John Maher, the Buzzcocks' drummer, who'd have been better known in Manchester at the time. It's not that much of a leap...
He might just have been upset that no one was pronouncing it properly!
Smash Hits claimed it was intentional in 1986...I am inclined to believe them.
In marre aussi though it has quite a different meaning: that would be "Have a laugh too". Maybe marre assez ("Enough with the laughing!")
Could easily mean both. That's what happens when you move around the word endings instead of the sentence structure to express stuff, it sometimes overlaps. Microsoft would complain you had a sentence fragment, but the conversation "Comment t'appele-tu" "J'en ai marre" "Et toi" "Marre aussi" Would make sense in verlaine's original sense.
True indeed, although I don't think you ought to be gratuitously supporting verlaine like that.
I heard he had already decided to call himself that, and that it was later that Morrissey noticed the phonetic similarity to the French phrase and henceforth pronounced it thus.
Dunno, but it's the way I alwaays remember the French term.
I have ALWAYS wondered this same thing.
<sings>Johnny Marr, he plays guitar.</sings>
Wow., nice. Hope you're OK. Have you in my thoughts. | |